Firewall Behaviour - And Windows Networking

The classical personal firewalls, which would be installed on most personal computers in a typical Small Office / Home Office environment, block only specific network traffic. By default, they are open, and pass all traffic.

Modern firewalls, used by more cautious network experts, permit only specific network traffic. By default, they are closed, and pass no traffic. After installing this type of firewall, you must run a manager and configure the firewall to pass your desired traffic.

My suspicion is that the nVidia nForce hardware firewall falls in the latter category. If you don't run the firewall manager, it will pass only a minimum of traffic, probably just enough for you to surf to the nVidia website and get software upgrades. This intentionally blocks SMBs (whether NetBT hosted, or directly hosted), and protects against the dangers offered by Windows Networking. If you're going to use Windows Networking over TCP/IP, you must run the firewall manager, and intentionally configure it for Windows Networking.

Short of configuring the firewall for Windows Networking over TCP/IP, you have no choice but to install an alternate transport such as IPX/SPX or NetBEUI, which bypasses the firewall completely.

For ongoing discussion about this issue, see these threads in the Microsoft Public WindowsXP Network_Web forum:


  • Selling my soul to the devil is the next step...
  • NVIDIA "hidden firewall" causes networking problem, by the Original Poster in the previous thread
    If you have the NVIDIA nforce networking controller with onboard LAN, you may have a "hidden firewall" interfering with your network connection. I'll describe my own situation and how I resolved the problem. I owe great gratitude to Chuck, frequent poster in this group, who worked with me for about a week, and had suggested the possibility of the NVIDIA "hidden firewall", but I was reluctant to accept that because, well, it really was hidden and I couldn't find it (and still can't). But it was there. (For those who want to review the original thread, it was posted in this group under the title "networking only works one way" on 08/04/06.)

  • Networking only works "one way", with only my part of the thread provided, because the Other Poster's content was not archived.


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2 comments:

Croaker Joe said...

I can thank you enough fr this great trouble-shooting site. I consider myself to be pretty sharp when it comes to PC trouble shooting but I was stumped as to why my network wouldn't work.. for months.

I finally found your site and read the bit about the nvidia firewall and now all works as expected.

Thanks again...

Croaker Joe said...

I can thank you enough for this great trouble-shooting site. I consider myself to be pretty sharp when it comes to PC trouble shooting but I was stumped as to why my network wouldn't work.. for months.

I finally found your site and read the bit about the nvidia firewall and now all works as expected.

For any others.. just follow the link to the google discussion and read it. Basically, just re-install your NForce drivers and JUST SAY NO when it asks to install "Network Access Manager". That was all it took to fix my network.

Thanks again...